This will definitely make some great hunters the sire dam was deleted for some reason the male is bred identical this gyp for a reference kimbo is his sire indio is his dams sire the bottom half is identical to the one showing but slightly different off the same family of dogs never received his papers he is out of Mexico where it cost a lot of money for them the register them here in the us but he is every bit of that ped you can research this with Ramirez if you know him